I would like to suggest that APO consider creating a formal mechanism for designating printed material as "APO Technical Bulletins", or "Annals", or "Observatory Publications", or some such term. Material so designated would be archived (physically) at APO, physically in the libraries of all APO institutions, and electronically by some means. What's the point? I can see several uses for such "Internal" documentation; I think that _all_ the following would be of interest to FUTURE users of APO: 1. descriptions of the various instruments, both fundamental (drawings, schematics, etc.) and tutorials on their use 2. long-term analysis of weather patterns, instrument downtime, pointing accuracy, staff levels, etc. 3. short descriptions of projects successfully achieved at APO. ("But," you might say, "the future user can just check the refereed literature, right?") 4. short descriptions of projects that FAILED to work at APO (and these WON'T be in the literature, I can guarantee). It would help new users of APO to know that, for a hypothetical example, the WF camera has such severe coma at the edges that one can't do photometry to better than 10% 5. technical papers describing work done on-site by graduate students -- material that might not make it into the refereed literature, but which represents months of hard work 6. progress reports for on-going projects, such as the work Karen (and the other observing specialists) have been doing to understand the behavior of telescope focus with temperature, altitude, etc. 7. quarterly (or annual) reports describing scientific projects during the last interval, changes to staff, changes to instrumentation, changes to computer resources, etc. If such "Technical Publications" were to exist, they would allow material which is now "hearsay" to be cited properly in refereed journals which require it. They would provide students with a tangible result for a summer's effort on the mountain, one which could be placed on a resume or vita. They would allow new users to "catch up" on the current state of things without having to travel en-masse to the site and talk to all the staff (yes, I'm thinking of JHU, and future JHUs). In our library, I can walk over to shelves full of "Lick Observatory Bulletins" and "Annals of the Harvard College Observatory". I can't do the same for APO, but I believe that I should be able to do so. Michael Richmond APO APO APO APO APO Apache Point Observatory 3.5m APO APO APO APO APO This is message 62 in the apo35-general archive. You can find APO the archive on http://astro.princeton.edu:82/apo35-general/INDEX.html APO To join/leave the list, send mail to apo35-request@astro.princeton.edu APO To post a message, mail it to apo35-general@astro.princeton.edu APO APO APO APO APO APO APO APO APO APO APO APO APO APO APO APO APO