Subject: Re: Meeting dates, and a scientific challenge

From: Alan W Harris

Submitted: Wed, 20 Nov 2002 16:38:52 -0800

Message number: 22 (previous: 21, next: 23 up: Index)

Dear Mike,

I'll pass on a couple brief comments now, and try to post something more 
thorough on the  general exploder before the telecon, or certainly before 
the January meeting.

At 05:29 PM 11/20/2002 -0500, Michael Strauss wrote:
>Executive summary:
>    -We'll have a phonecon, Monday, December 9, 2-4 PM East Coast Time.
>        Please send suggested agenda items!

I'll have something to say regarding survey strategy by telecon 
time.  Also, and related, I can report on the Pan-STARRS workshop I 
attended last week in Hawaii.  The most interesting issue raised there is 
the possibility that a fairly good NEO Hazard survey can be done with less 
than all-sky coverage, concentrating on "sweet spots" at 60-90 degrees 
elongation from the sun near the ecliptic plane (looking along the Earth's 
orbit out to about the Lagrange points).  The "good news" is, this might 
reduce the amount of time needed to do the NEO survey.  The bad news is, 
that part of the sky (low solar elongation) is really crappy for any other 
purpose, so the NEA survey would become a "divorced" endeavor from anything 
else.  Or maybe that's not bad news.  Anyway, I'm running "quick and dirty" 
simulations right now to test the claim and see if I agree with it.  I'll 
continue doing more detailed simulations over the coming month or two, and 
the results will probably be a substantial part of my AAS poster talk.

>    -We'll provisionally meet at the AAS 10-1:30, and perhaps 3:30 to
>           5:30, Thursday, January 9; Chris Stubbs will check whether
>           a room is available

I suspect we'll need all of that time.  I'll be there.  I should have 
progress to report, including the above survey matters plus some comments 
on the NASA and Hawaii studies and how they relate to LSST.

>    -What are the scientific drivers for 10-second exposures?
In my opinion, not much with respect to NEO surveys.  Trailing loss begins 
to set in at about 20 sec. exposures for 1 degree/day motion.  Faster 
moving NEAs are typically smaller than 250 m diameter at the LSST threshold 
magnitude, so losing some sensitivity at >1 deg/day is not a serious 
hit.  The main driver, in my opinion, is simply to cover the sky fast 
enough.  However, if the less-than-all-sky strategy mentioned above is 
valid, then it may be possible to do the NEA survey with longer exposures 
and less sky coverage.

Cheers,

Al

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Alan W. Harris
Senior Research Scientist
Space Science Institute
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La Canada, CA 91011-3364        email:  harrisaw@colorado.edu
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