Subject: APO 3.5-m Users Committee minutes 11/22/04
From: Bruce Gillespie
Submitted: Tue, 23 Nov 2004 18:59:57 -0700
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APO 3.5-m Users Committee Phonecon, 11/22/04
Attending: Ed Turner, Suzanne Hawley, Michael Strauss, Russet
McMillan, Karl Glazebrook, Bruce Balick, Bruce Gillespie, John Bally
Absent: Al Harper, Jon Holtzman, Don York, Rene Walterbos, Jim Green
Minutes taken by Bruce Gillespie
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Highlights of Board of Governors, Futures Committee meetings
Rather than go through the available 3.5-m Annual Report in detail, Ed
and Suzanne listed the highlights:
[see downloadable pdf file at
http://www.apo.nmsu.edu/Site/ARCAnnlReports/default.html]
o main concern was continued loss of key technical people within the
ARC institutions
o good news was that science highlights in past year show more
richness and diversity than in past
o also good news that NIC-FPS was delivered and is being commissioned,
very nearly on schedule
o plus good news that Suzanne Hawley was selected and has agreed to
serve as new 3.5-m Director
Suzanne descibed her plans for 2005 (cf. pp. 38-39 in Annual Report).
Under Plans and Issues, she emphasized the shortfall of on- and
off-site technical support likely to be manifest next year. This is
somewhat aggravated by the uncertainties of SDSS-II which will not
likely be resolved until sometime in 2005. The identification of new
technical talent will be a high priority, both in telescope and
instrumentation support areas.
The focus of CIF spending will be on image quality, optics safety, and
instrumentation improvements. Planned improvements to DIS will include
new gratings, UV throughput, and fixing the dichroic split problem, all
subject to time and money constraints. Significant funding will be
devoted to the "new top-end" project, with APO and Washington staff
leading the effort to improve image stability and enhance mirror
safety.
The plans for the annual engineering shutdown are being worked, with an
eye toward better utilization of manpower (e.g., avoiding having
engineers working on both the 3.5-m and SDSS telescopes at the same
time).
On the University of Virginia front, a technical proposal was received
from UVa to build a near-IR medium-resolution spectrograph for APO,
called Triplespec. This proposal was forwarded to several "friends" of
APO for feasibility review, and favorable comments and constructive
recommendations were received and forwarded back to John Wilson and
Mike Skrutskie at UVa. John and Mike presented their proposal to the
Futures Committee, and overall there is a strong technical consensus to
proceed. Suzanne is forming an Instrument Implementation Team to work
with UVa; plans are being drawn to have the team visit UVa next month.
On the issue of possible UVa partnership in ARC, it appears that the
scientists of both ARC and UVa are largely eager over the prospects of
UVa membership in ARC. The administrative processes and money issues
will be challenges. Michael asked how much of a share are we
considering. Suzanne said 10% is being discussed, and this appears not
to be a problem finding that much of an allocation from within the
existing ARC partners. She mentioned that the ARC Board established a
committee (Mike Shull, Rene Walterbos, Ron Irving) to help her in the
continuing discussions with UVa.
For 2005 CIF planning, Suzanne reiterated that she wants us to do some
long-standing DIS upgrades, since DIS is the majority-use instrument on
the telescope. This would include new gratings (better matched to the
new detectors), fix the UV-throughput problem, and fix the dichroic
split problem. These would be done in serial order, as funds allowed.
Also, the new top-end project will be a high priority, with completion
hoped for by the summer shutdown. Another resource that is needed is
instrument engineering expertise--whether this become a new site hire
or provided by other means is TBD. Rounding out the list of CIF
projects are TUI completion, spare drive boxes, new drive
controllers/servos, and contingency held for NIC-FPS, Triplespec, and
operations in the event of no SDSS-II.
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Telescope twilight scheduling:
Suzanne will institute a new scheduling policy effective starting Q1
next year. Telescope time will be allocated and scheduled starting at
sunset and ending at sunrise, instead of the 12-degree twilights that
have been in use for several years. The reasons for this change
include:
o prevents confusion on when astronomers have control of the telescope
o encourages users to take more time for calibrations
o promotes use of scientifically productive twilight time for near-IR
instruments
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High-speed photometer proposal:
Suzanne report that Anjum Mukadam and her collaborators have submitted
NSF and ATI proposals for full funding of this instrument. If funded,
the instrument will become a "visiting" instrument at the 3.5-m. We
should know in a few months if the project is funded or not.
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Huzzas to Ed Turner:
Bruce Balick noted the Board of Governors gave Ed Turner a resounding
round of applause and appreciation for his service to ARC and its
community over the past decade. On behalf of the Users Committee, he
wants it noted for the record how much the committee members have
appreciated his inspired leadership.
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NIC-FPS Commissioning
Russet McMillan has been working with the NIC-FPS team at APO the past
few nights. She reported that the early commissioning is going very
smoothly, the instrument and detector look "beautiful, with gorgeous
image quality." The 60 kHz noise is gone. Weather permitting, some of
the shared-risk commissioning science has been and will be undertaken.
So far, things look good for initial science operations to begin as
planned in Q1/Q2. The TUI interface to the instrument is largely
working (there is no Remark user interface).
In Q1/05, NIC-FPS will be "campaign"-scheduled for one solid week each
bright period for each of the three months in the quarter, assuming
there's enough demand. This block scheduling is being used to ensure
that the NIC-FPS engineers can be available to help new observers.
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GRIM2:
Note the recent announcement by Suzanne regarding the future of GRIM2:
From: slh@astro.washington.edu
Subject: Plans for GRIM2
Date: November 9, 2004 12:57:53 PM MST
To: apo35-general@astro.princeton.edu
Reply-To: slh@astro.washington.edu
Pending the successful commissioning of NICFPS, we are beginning to
plan for the retirement of GRIM2. This message is to let people know
that GRIM2 will still be available in "normal" operation (one quadrant
is still bad) during Q1 2005. Users should take advantage of having
both GRIM2 and NICFPS operational in order to obtain cross-calibration
data in preparation for transferring programs to NICFPS. Depending on
the demand for GRIM2 we will consider retiring GRIM2 after Q1 2005. If
you anticipate needing GRIM2 during or after Q2 2005, please let us
know now so that we can make an informed plan for its retirement.
Suzanne Hawley
Bruce Gillespie
[Note added here: User Committee members are encouraged to make sure
their users provide any feedback to Suzanne ASAP. Note that there are
a few somewhat specialized GRIM2 filters that are not provided with
NIC-FPS.]
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Futures Committee note:
Suzanne noted that the Futures Committee has met thrice already and
plans a few more face-to-face meetings through next year. Although
chartered to consider issues in 2008 and beyond, many current and
near-term issues are discussed, much in the same way as the Users
Committee does. Although some of the Futures and Users Committee
institutional representatives are the same person, in some cases
they're not. Suzanne considers it important for the Futures and Users
Committee members at each institution, if they're not the same person,
have frequent discussions on the present and future issues facing the
telescope, and try to "get on the same page."
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Last month's minutes were approved without comment.
Next phonecon will be on Monday, December 20, 2004, at 11:30 AM Eastern
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