Apache Point Observatory 3.5m User's Committee Meeting September 16, 2002 Attending: Bruce Gillespie, Mike Shull, Ed Turner, Michael Strauss, Alan Uomoto, Rene Walterbos, Bruce Balick, Jon Holtzman, Chris Stubbs Absent: John Morse, Al Harper Contents: --New DIS throughput measurements --Results from summer shutdown --Advanced coatings for M2 or M3? --Status of telescope collimation --Instrument reports and problems --Miscellaneous --Appendix A: Discussion of results of DIS throughput measurements --Appendix B: Summary of summer shutdown results *******************Measurement of DIS throughput******************* Jon Holtzman has analyzed and collated measurements of the throughput of DIS from data taken in March 2001, March 2002, May 2002, and September 2002; the changes these datasets sample are: March 2001: old chips and old coatings on telescope March 2002: new chips, but bad blue coating May 2002 : even newer blue chip, new coating Sept 2002 : same, but after realuminization of primary and washing of tertiary However, the throughput data has been obtained with various gratings, making comparison a bit more complicated, especially on the red channel. A summary plot can be found at: http://www.astro.princeton.edu/APO/throughput_sep2002.gif Jon's summary of conclusions from this can be found below as Appendix A of these minutes. Note in particular that the news is overall very good, but that we don't quite have all the data necessary to make final claims on, e.g., the relative throughputs of the low and medium gratings on the blue side. This is obviously important for those deciding on grating settings for the observing runs, and is thus of high priority for the upcoming engineering run this week. ***************Shutdown accomplishment list:********************* The summer shutdown ended a night or two late, right at the beginning of September. The mountain staff put a huge amount of work over the six-week shutdown, working 60 hours or more a week. The User's Committee expresses its gratitude for the tremendously hard work that everyone put in during the shutdown. These shutdown activities have been tremendously useful in making the telescope mechanically more robust and reliable. The full list of shutdown accomplishments may be found below as Appendix B. The most important items were: -The realuminization of M1 (as the DIS throughput measurements make clear, this caused a substantial gain in throughput) -Work on the dome shutter drives, which were on the verge of failing -Rebuilt the altitude drive assembly Gillespie notes that the list in Appendix B is divided up into several sections: -Tasks accomplished; -Tasks remaining to be done, but which can be carried out during the day; -Tasks remaining to be done, which will have to be done at the next major shutdown -New problems discovered The bottom line is that we came out of the shutdown with telescope working fine, but there were a few problems with instruments, which we detail below. **********************Advanced Coatings for the mirrors?************** Gillespie: As part of the National Ignition Facility effort, LLNL has developed new mirror coatings with a reflectivity of >95% from 300 nm to 3 microns, with no dips. In contrast, our current coatings give a reflectivity (when newly aluminized) of 90% off each of the three surfaces (primary, secondary, and tertiary), with dips, e.g., at 8000A, approaching 80%. These new coatings consist of silver over aluminum, plus proprietary layers of dialetrics. They are described at this web site: http://www-eng.llnl.gov/silver_mirror/index.html Moreover, these coatings are easy to clean, and suggest never having to realuminize again. The coating is apparently easy to remove if need be. The folks at LLNL are eager to get this technology out to the astronomical community, and will thus do these coatings "at cost", i.e., $5000/week for lab time, and no further costs. Their facility can handle optics as large as 1 meter in diameter, and so would be appropriate for our secondary or tertiary, but not our primary. (Of course, removing the secondary or tertiary for this purpose and shipping them to Livermore would mean at least a two-week downtime). This is starting to get the interest in the astronomical community, and it is not clear how long the research effort will continue, so we may have a fairly narrow window of opportunity to take advantage of this. However, this new technology has been tested in only one astronomical context; one of the surfaces of one of the Keck spectrographs has been coated with this, so the robustness of the coating to outside conditions is not yet known. We're in the process of getting a witness sample to mount on the telescope, and see how it ages. There is also a possibility of coating the NMSU 1-m telescope at APO. **************************************************************** Collimation monitoring project? Gillespie: During post-shutdown recommissioning, we found some short-timescale decollimation; every few nights, the collimation appears to worsen considerably (this seems not to be a gradual drift, but rather a jump in the system). This can cause up to a 1/4 arcsec image degradation in quadrature. We should use Shack-Hartman to check and fix the collimation, as often as every night or perhaps once every few nights. Taking the relevant data would take less than 1/2 hour; let's start a program to do so, look at the results, and decide what is really needed. Note that these data would need to be taken with a fully equilibrated telescope; thus it could not happen in evening twilight, but perhaps in morning twilight. Collecting these data would not only be important for keeping the telescope collimated and pointing well, but will be significant for better establishing the priority of fixing the "top-end" of the telescope. ***************************************************************** Instrumental reports and problems During the summer shutdown, the SPICAM cryotiger failed. The company that manufactures the cryotiger is being slow in doing the repairs, but finally shipped it back to the mountain on Friday, so it should arrive Monday. We hope to be back on the air by the end of the week (getting these things back on line can be difficult). We've also ordered a new cryotiger, for backup for both SPICAM and DIS (which uses the same system). The echelle accidentally warmed up prior to the shutdown, and some kind of condensate appears to have formed on a cold optic (not the chip); this is now fixed after much pumping. The Nasmyth guider thermoelectric cooler failed; this was sent to the company, and we haven't heard from them yet as to when they will send it back to us. (Late update: this is being repaired now, and may have it back at APO as early as the end of the week). The telescope has been tracking very well lately, and Strauss reported that he had to do only very minor tweaks to the pointing during 1/2 hour DIS exposures recently. GRIM is going into a 'missing quadrant mode' (we've seen this before); multiple power cycles seem to clear this up. The mountain staff is also looking at the "tuning" of the analog power supplies, which have been related to similar problems in the past. Shull: Procurement of NIC-FPS optics is proceeding. The order for the chip is in (see last month's minutes). A brief technical description of instrument is available on the APO web page: http://galileo.apo.nmsu.edu/~jcb/apo/nicfps/ and more details are at: http://galileo.apo.nmsu.edu/~jcb/apo/nicfps/NICFPS_projdescr.pdf Details can be found in the PDF document at the bottom of this web page. Uomoto: JHU/Chicago IR spectrograph. We have close to a final optical design. The overall throughput is up to 30%, and it maybe even better if we get a really good detector. The mechanical design is coming along fine as well, thanks to Steve Smee of SDSS fame. We'll be using ceramic alumininum overcoated gratings, which have high throughput. DIS: Jeff Morgan has been spending quite a bit of time on new optics. The original glass slug used was a bit too short, which caused various troubles. They are still hoping to deliver by the end of the year. Stubbs: A multi-band imager: The conceptual design is underway: SDSS griz + possibility of IR extension, simultaneous. Excellent for relative photometry, especially for transients. Note that because clouds are grey, relative photometry can be done even in cirrussy conditions. There are still uncertainties in the optical design: should we go with reimaging optics? The science case for u-band imaging as well is still up in the air (you need substantially longer exposure times to get to similar signal-to-noise ratios), although Strauss points out the tremendous amount of u-band science that SDSS (with the same exposure time in all bands) has enabled. ************************Miscellaneous******************************* With the departure of Camron Hastings, Bill Ketzeback has been hired as a new observing specialist; he's been on the job 1 1/2 months. He has previously worked at Lowell Observatory, the Wyoming IR facility, and Zygo Optical in Tucson. Don York and collaborators had planned to submit an NSF proposal to raise funds for echelle upgrades. However, they have decided not to go ahead: a new improved guider/acquisition camera is in hand (it may be installed in October, or later in the Fall), and the sensitivity of the current system is somewhat higher than previously thought. Proposals from JHU and Colorado for the NIR spectrograph, and for NIC-FPS, respectively, did go in, however. There was some discussion of the possibility of obtaining a wide slit (5") for spectrophotometry. Alan Uomoto expresses interest in building such a thing, if money is found. He points out that he has made an aperture mask with round apertures in the past, with spectrophotometry in mind. A number of people in the ARC consortium will be present at the Seattle AAS meeting. As in previous AAS meetings, we should use the opportunity to get together privately to discuss various APO-related matters face-to-face. Al Harper has taken over from Lew Hobbs as the U. Chicago representative on this user's committee. We welcome Al to our group, and thank Lew for his valuable input over the years. Last month's meeting minutes are approved. Next meeting: Monday, October 14, 11:30 AM ************************************************************************* Appendix A: Notes from Jon Holtzman on his analysis of throughput data from DIS. 1. We've made good throughput progress in the past 18 months with DIS! The DIS blue channel in particular should be very competitive (but maybe not so great for all gratings, see below). 2. Realuminization probably improved the throughput about 30 percent in the blue channel. Can't say for sure about the red, because we don't have data with the same grating. I don't see huge evidence for a strong wavelength dependence like we did last time we realuminized, but I haven't looked super closely. 3. It's possible/likely there are significant throughput differences between the gratings. a. In the blue, comparing March 2002 to May 2002, one sees significantly better performance in May with the low res as opposed to the medium res: HOWEVER, there was also a change of chip and change of coating (though at 5000 A, the latter should not have made much difference, and this would be a pretty significant QE difference between the two chips). We have no data with the high res grating. b. In the red, there's no direct comparison, but the much better throughput after aluminization with the low res as compared to before with the medium res strongly suggests that the low res grating has better throughput. Also the observation that the old red chips with low res grating outperform the new chips with medium and high res gratings supports this conclusion. Medium and high res can be compared between March 02 and May 02 directly, suggesting that high is better at some wavelengths, worse at others. Additional things I would note: 1. As you can see from scatter between curves, I don't measure the throughput at extremely high accuracy. There are several complications. Working slitless makes it difficult to get good accuracy; proper sky subtraction is difficult. If we want better measurements, we should consider getting a wide slit (e.g. 5-10 arcsec). Note that all measurements are made on raw (i.e. unflattened) data, which I think is appropriate (note that if one flattens with flats taken with the slit, one introduces features that come from variations along the slit that do not exist in the slitless data), but can introduce scatter from poor sky subtraction if the chips aren't flat; this is a real problem with the old red chip, because it definitely wasn't extremely flat. 2. In the red channel, the stellar spectra are tilted fairly significantly with respect to pixel rows. 3. I checked the gains at the different epochs, and they are not completely consistent with one another. For example, I measured gain of 1.74 for the new red channel in March, but got 1.9 for the same in September. The plots were made assuming the latter for all dates with the new chips; if you adopt the former, the total throughput in the red channel goes down by 9 percent. Uncertainties in the gain might be arising from non-Gaussian noise in the data, I need to look further into this. ************************************************************************ Appendix B: Accomplishments of the summer shutdown (from Mark Klaene): 1. reusable safety rails assembled and installed for the Intermediate and Observing levels for when the large hatches are removed. 2. The following work was accomplished on both the right and left shutters 1. Installed low temp grease in pillow block bearings 2. installed low temp oil in right angle gear drives 3. Installed new drive motors 4. Installed new brakes 5. Installed new speed reducers with low temp oil 3. re-aluminized M1 4. washed M3 5. calibrated M1 PMSS load cells 6. rebuilt altitude drive assembly 7. repaired mirror covers 8. Evacuated and cooled GrimII 9. warmed Echelle CCD and started evacuation 10. Cleaned mirror cell 11. checked PMSS bellowframs 12. leaked checked PMSS air supply 13. Installed exhaust fans for Cryotigers in I-Level racks 14. Cleaned up Spicam wiring, removed power transformer 15. Had DIS slit viewer evaluated and moved power supply to ceiling of I-level and doubled up 12 volt wiring to reduce voltage drop for TEC. 16. relocated tertiary PCB2 for ease of maintenance 17. Installed brackets for new cat eye mask The following items were planned but not completed due to time and manpower 1. tertiary wiring clean up at PCB3 2. Shim mirror cover switches 3. replace some guide rollers on shutter (parts arrived late) The following items are still in work awaiting time and or parts 1. Install new cat eye mask 2. 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