Subject: APO 3.5m users committee minutes from 10/5/09 meeting (fwd)
From: Suzanne Hawley
Submitted: Tue, 6 Oct 2009 15:17:11 -0700 (PDT)
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APO 3.5-m Users Committee Phonecon, 10/05/09
Attending: Suzanne Hawley, Al Harper, Jon Holtzman, Michael Strauss, Scott
Anderson, Mark Klaene, John Bally, Russet McMillan, Bill Ketzeback, Bruce
Gillespie
Absent: Jon Fulbright, Remy Indebetouw
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User feedback, comments from institutional representatives:
Chicago (Al Harper) - Al said he had nothing new to report.
New Mexico State (Jon Holtzman) - Jon reported on a recently received question
from an NMSU user. Is is possible to do field-star guiding in horizon mode?
Russet said it is possible, although there are accuracy limitations,
particularly for long exposures. Users are encouraged to try it if they need
it, although bore-sight guiding and/ or "unguided" exposures may work as well,
or better. The Observing specialists will share their experiences with
field-star horizon-mode guiding amongst themselves so that everyone is up to
speed.
Washington (Scott Anderson) - Scott (and Suzanne) thanked all the site staff
for their support during the recent visit and orientation of a batch of new UW
students.
Colorado (John Bally) - A recent CU user of TripleSpec using the long- slit
mode recommends the need to take darks and off-target sky frames. This led to
a discussion of whether the user documentation is explicit on this topic.
===> ACTION: Russet McMillan will look at the TripleSpec user documentation
for its adequacy in describing darks and sky calibrations for the long-slit
mode.
Princeton (Michael Strauss) - Michael said that things with the PU users are
"quiet, happy, and no news."
Johns Hopkins - Suzanne mentioned that she had received a note of appreciation
from a JHU user who received timely site staff help in unlocking a user
password blockage.
Virginia - No report.
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Discussion of telescope/instruments report:
Mark mentioned that it has only been a short time since the last report. The
weather has since been a mixed bag of rain, clouds, clear nights and
occasionally very good seeing. The new axes motor controllers have been
working reasonably well since coming out of shutdown, but there have been
sporadic dropouts, which the site engineers are working on. The operations
building kitchen has received a long-overdue remodeling job. For the
instruments, the SPIcam filter wheel is still occasionally hanging up; quick
modifications are being tried, but the system may need a redesign and overhaul.
If users notice problems with the SPIcam filter wheel, they should let their
Observing Specialist know about it when it happens. Also, the GFP developed a
vacuum leak, which was fixed. The CIF projects for 2009 are essentially
completed, and planning is underway for 2010 projects.
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3.5-m Telescope, Instruments, and CIF Projects Highlights, 9/10/09 through
10/1/09
Mark Klaene
0) Overview
The first three weeks of observing after the summer shutdown has been a mixed
blessing. Weather kept us closed much of the time, but when we were open skies
were generally photometric and seeing variable but often very good. Problems
with the new motors and controllers were much less than expected given the
minimal testing that was done coming out of shutdown. The kitchen upgrade is
mostly complete, with new appliances arriving soon.
1) Telescope
There were no unexpected problems this period. We had one occurrence of the
altitude axis faulting due to position errors and one due to high wind
(something not previously tested). We are addressing these issues during the
engineering time October 1 and 2.
2) Instruments
The SPIcam filter wheel failed at 120 deg instrument rotation angle. It appears
that the filter wheel drive circuit is not applying sufficient current during
the full wheel rotational move. Modifications were made to the circuitry to
improve this and SPIcam is back in service. If the problem recurs, a redesign
of the drive circuitry will be required.
DIS, Echelle, Agile and TripleSpec ran with no problems.
GFP had a vacuum leak and is being pumped on prior to re-cooling later this
week. The leak is suspected to be at the valve.
3) CIF projects
With the completion of the CIF projects for 2009, we are currently discussing
plans for 2010.
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2009 Science Highlights (Hawley):
Suzanne said that we have science highlights from Chicago, Washington,
Colorado, Virginia, and Princeton in hand. We expect to get highlights from
NMSU and JHU in the next few days. Bruce Woodgate has given us a highlight for
the GFP, and we need to get something for APOLLO. We will assemble these next
week for inclusion in the 2009 annual report for the ARC Board.
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Time accounting changes (Hawley, McMillan):
Russet said that for several years we have been scheduling the telescope for
usage between sunset and sunrise with a 5-minute cushion, but the usage
accounting in the night logs has been from/to 12 degree twilight. With several
instruments now effectively working well into twilight, the usage accounting is
going to be made consistent in the sense that twilight will be reported in the
night logs as used (or not) if it could have been effectively used.
Operationally, there is no change--the twilight time will be accounted for when
appropriate, and the night log tables will be modified to reflect this. The
"Day Use" category will be removed
from the night logs.
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ARC futures planning (Hawley):
Suzanne said that discussions are starting about the post-2014 time frame and
the future of APO. This will encompass the whole observatory, and we need to
start reexamining issues pertaining to the 3.5-meter telescope. A futures
planning process will be discussed with the ARC Board next month, and we should
be thinking about topics such as operational modes, institutional alignments,
new instrumentation, etc. A futures committee will probably be formed, and it
will need representation from the 3.5-meter user community.
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ACTION ITEMS:
[open from previous months]:
===> ACTION: Suzanne needs the 2009 3.5-m telescope science highlights--one
page of graphics and text per highlight--submitted to Mark Klaene and herself
not later than 5 October. Multiple highlights from each institution are
encouraged, dating back to 1 October '08.
STATUS: Closed.
[new actions from this meeting]:
===> ACTION: Russet McMillan will look at the TripleSpec user documentation
for its adequacy in describing darks and sky calibrations for the long-slit
mode.
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Next meeting: The next Users Committee phonecon will be on Monday, 9 November,
at 8:30 AM Pacific Time. The agenda and other materials will be sent to the
committee members during the preceding week.
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